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YESH! What are you waiting for? ^^ Final Sunset isn't so much a happy story, but I think the storyline is kind of an emotional one, and I hope people feel for Bryan's situation by the end. He has an interesting past.

And darn it, if Blaze's armour isn't a b@#ch to draw T.T Lol. Those kne pads haunt me to heck

I'll start reading in the morning, lol. Right now I'm about to head to my nice comfortable bed.

Well, we don't always need to read happy stories. My Mindhunter isn't a happy story and my upcoming story Vigilante isn't a happy story either.

I have so much respect for people who can draw. I only draw occasionally, writing is my forte mostly.

Thanks ^^ Drawing and writing came hand in hand for me. I REALLY suck at spelling/grammar (I'm slowly getting better T.T ), but my primary school teachers still remember my stories to this day. I know this cause I have met SEVERAL of them again, and they all remember my imagination ^^ I don't know how good of a novel writer I'll be when I do write my novel, but even if my writing would be better if written by someone else, I know right now, that they'll love the characters and story cause every time I explain my concepts, people really get hooked on the story. And no- a story doesn't have to be happy- its nice to be, but I don't mind the odd sad one. There must always be reason to carry on though Otherwise it becomes emo XD

Yeah same here. Writing came really early to me and my teachers all remember the stuff I used to write, hehe. I remember a story about bullying and a story about a wild horse myself.

Ofcourse, there always has to be a reason to go on. I hate emo myself. That's why there's always a character in my story who encourages the others to go on.

I like to hear other people talk about their concepts, because I like to talk mine too.

What's your thoughts on Mary Sues then?

Mary Sue's.... That's difficult. I admit to writing tons of them for fanfiction, lol. I don't even know if Newt, my female lead for Mindhunter, classifies as a Mary Sue. Gods, I hope not.

I know I cringe when I see the typical Mary Sue saving the day and getting all the hot guys, so I try to avoid that. That's basically my main peeve about MS. Sometimes they get a certain twist in a story and that makes it work, so then it's ok.

I shouldn't have said "hate emo". It works sometimes. What I meant was, that it shouldn't be overdone. I've gone through a very emo and depressive time after my father died and I hate that I was I like that, because it felt like I had given up when I usually don't ever do that. So what I earlier. It should be done right and not overdone, hehe.

Ah good. I wanted to make sure you weren't a cliche' hater just cause its the cool thing to do for "l337" writers There's so many Sue bashers out there, btu frankly, half my cast are Sues to some level. My biggest Sue in my opinion is Julia- she's the giggly, bookworm type character that is everyone's little sister. She lives in her own little dream world, where Bryan is in love with her, and she's a beautiful princess. In reality, He is still in love with her, but she wont acknowledge that cause she doesn't believe it. And cause she refuses to believe that a Prince could fall in love with her, he slowly faids away from her world cause of her abilities over the dream realm. They're both in love with eachother, but she wont admit it. Now... she is SO Sue my ears bleed, but who else can you hook up a emo prince that has had a shit life with? She's perfect. She's innocent and sees the world through rose coloured lenses, he can protect her, and she makes everyone smile. She's exactly what he needs to carry on life happily again. But... I wont let him >: ) (I'm so evil)

Emo is the opposite to a Sue. I'm glad you can spot that both are potentially awesome characters cause the anti Sue lynch mob makes my eyes roll

Heheh, no not the typical cliche hater. Everyone makes sues and emos. Dont know if I've made an emo yet though. Someone would have tell me as I'm blind to such things.

Aww you are so mean indeed. Poor Bryan, I feel so sorry for him. And can I smack Julia. She should believe what she sees, that would save her a lot of trouble. Just the fact that she doesn't get him doesn't make her that much of a sue if you ask me.

I'm not so mean. My Newt goes through a lot too. She loses the man whom she considers her brother, she finds out that the identity she has is not a real one and she's an unoriginal human, which makes her friends alienate themselves from her. (I don't want to spoil too many things)

Then we have Yuu 'Scandal' Koyama. He's a bit of a lazy bum with a love for women when you meet him, except that he loves the speed of a motorcycle and likes to get into trouble. He changes a bit after his brother dies though, becomes more serious and responsible, although he remains his outgoing and positive self. He has a crush on Newt early on as she's nothing like the girls he usually dates, but she doesn't like him. *giggles*

They do get together though in the end. I figured there should be some happiness in all that misery.

Lol- rejection ^^

No- the thing with Julia isn't blind so much as in a lack of self confidence, and security of her own imagination. She's scared what would happen if she opens up to him and gets dumped for a 'better woman'. That fear, with her control over the dream realm pulls her thoughts away from the real world cause she doesn't want to acknowledge his attention as 'real', so slowly, he actually becomes a dream to her. It's complicated. She wants to believe that she's good enough. Its one of Bryan's few emotional triggers

*pokes Julia* Get some confidence woman, he loves you, that should be enough of a confidence boost.

Talk about complicated indeed. That would make me tired, lol.

Yeah, rejection, hehe. Don't you just love it? You should see how Newt rejects Scandal at first. She kicks his ass and throws him against a wall. That chapter isn't up yet though, lol.

The mind is a powerfull thing, let alone having Julia's powers to alter the dream realm. I have reality issues sometimes. Dreams can be alot sweeter than reality. If you wear glasses that flip the world upside down, your mind in 2 weeks will flip it the correct way up- its proven. If it can do that, this is just an extreme case of insecurity :< I feel sorry for her. She doesn't realise how beautiful her soul is to him

Well, I know what you mean. I hated the world for so long that I would wander off into my own fantasy world.

It is really sad how someone can be so insecure. Just makes me want to go over there and hug.

The mind is a powerful thing indeed. And I'm just fascinated by telepathy and telekinesis and all. That's why I use it a lot.

That's why I have insecure characters We can identify with them. She's not depressed, just, scared. Scared to stretch her wings as far as they can go. It's a very human thing to do. It's proven that we are all born with the same ability to be someone, yet, we all settle for good enough. That's her. She's very much like me actually, so I find her very easy to write ^^

Yeah, you're right. We all settle for good enough. It's sad when we could all be so much more.

I bet. It's quite easy to write someone who you identify with. Newt is quite insecure too. She was comfortable with who she was and now she's thrown into the limelight as a leader. She thinks she's not near good enough to replace her brother, but her instincts are actually really good.

Scandal becomes insecure at a later point. I find that really funny because he's usually such a big shot with a big mouth.
Both characters are very easy to write for me. I've been writing about them, with them, for 10 years already so I like to think I know them through and through.

Yeah- I don't usually think like a bastard, so it's tough to write one. There's some characters in my story who are worse than the Drakobitus, but I don't draw then, cause I don't identify too well. Bryan's great grand father is an utter bastard-he puts in place laws which screw over so many lives, and brain washes everyone into thinking it was for the greater good. He is like Hitler.He brain washes his son too- The High King actually is a good person, but he's so dependant on his father's approval. I don't know if Bryan will ever forgive either of them

I'm getting better at writing bastards, both male and female bastards.

What I really wanna try doing is write a bastard who is very polite and sophisticated, so you get to like him when he still a bastard. That's the idea for Xeraph at least.

Forgiveness is a difficult thing to do, so I can understand Bryan if he never does.

A Lex Luthor type character? Those guys are slime balls XD Yeah- I need evil character practise I'm surprisingly not an angry person, and I don't carry vendettas. I have a bit of a dirty mind, but hey- we can't all be clean right? XD Heh... My story actually has a sex slave trade in it. That had some nasty storylines >.>

Well, I like to think of Xeraph as a Genesis Rhapsodos (from FFVII Crisis Core and the Dirge of Cerberus secret ending) sort of character.

I'm not an angry person until you piss me off, lol, but I do hold grudges. My ex bf can tell you all about that.

I think most people have dirty mind. I know I have one, lol. Sex slave huh? Sounds interesting. That reminds me of someone telling me my cyberpunk stories need more sex. Hmmmm *thinks*

Not played that T.T

Yeah- sex slaves. It made an interesting storyline, and made a few of the main characters turn bright red a few times *chicka bow wow* I need to fit it in the storyline a bit better though. IT's like... a random encounter atm ^^

Well, Crisis Core hasn't come out in English yet, lol. Since I love spoilers I've seen every clip there is to see, lol. Besides, English version doesn't have Gackt's voice for Genesis.

*giggles* I can imagine your characters would turn bright red, but mine wouldn't. Prostitution and sex slaves are every day business in my cyberpunk city, lol.

Maybe you'll get more ideas on how to fit in the story. I often have one shots that I need to fit in my stories, so I've become quite adapt at fitting them in.

Its not so much the type of world my characters are in- its more the characters themselves. They aren't exposed to it much, and most of them are teenagers exposed to either war or a "normal" peacefull life on Earth. I have a heap of characters which wouldn't have an issue though. The biggest thing the trade has though, is they also auction off men as well- THAT was what got them.

Yeah- there can be plot device ones, but I'm not bringing it back in unless I hve a good reason for a slave trade storyline ^^

So the auctioning of men was upsetting? Because it isn't know that much. How sexist, lol.

Storylines like that should be brought in with care yes.

It hasn't come up in my stories yet, but it is there and all the characters know it. Might come up in my new story though.

I think they were more shocked cause they didn't consider that some of the people buying the slaves would prefure men when there isnt' a female in the croud. Not so much sexist- They wouldn't be so shocked about it if women were there. Its not a common thing for men to be sold- that's all. >.> <.< >.<

Ah that way. Well some people do. It's been seen in history all the time, lol. I can see why they would be shocked though.

Doesn't make the concept any easier to handle

No, never said it would, hehe.

One of my friends said that my cyberpunk story needed more sex. I have no idea how that is going to fit in the story, lol.

I would give you thoughts, but sometimes stories don't need it. Just make sure it actually achieves story development in some way even if it's relationship tension or something. I read the wizards first rule, and in it is about 2 chapters of the hero getting sexually tortured. Those two chapters could've been taken out, and I'd be fine with the storyline. Instead, I had 2 chapters that I'll now skip over cause the story is better without it. Everyone I talk to agrees with me. Don't make it like that, and you'll be fine ^^

Well, I have an ex priest turned cop who is basically catching up on everything he missed as a priest, lol. Really, I've never made a character like that before and I love him. He's a on a sexual frenzy unless he's buried in work. I wrote about sexual encounters he has and Scandal is quite active in the sexual business, constantly trying to get laid. That's what they are like, but I don't really write in detail about it. I just mention it here and there in short scenes.

Other than that there are no deepgoing sexual relationships because it's not necessary and wouldn't make sense at this point. Romance and love and sex is not really what the story is about at this moment so I don't think it's necessary to put more in that I already have.

The relationship between Newt and Scandal is going to change though because of the things they go through right now. I like writing about how their personalities grow up and change, making them grow closer towards each other so they turn to each other in their greatest time of need.

If he's sexually repressed it makes sense in the story line for it. He gonna buy someone to satisfy him that ends up reteaching him the ways of life? Or is the hero or something?

You got me thinking now, lol. I haven't really fleshed out how Dallas turned from priest to cop yet. One of the things I know that happened is that he felt useless in stopping the evil in the world as a priest. He felt it was his duty to stop evil and he thought he could better do that as a cop. He was sexually repressed during this time as a priest (I didn't want to make it seem like he did it with little boys as seems to be the hype with priests in catholic church right now, I just think that's totally wrong and Dallas is not gay at all).

Maybe he met up with a prostitute after helping her out and she wanted to repay him with her body and that was also one of the reasons he quit being a priest.

Right now at the moment though he doesn't buy people to satisfy him. He figures it's bad for his career if he is seen with a prostitute or at a brothel, even if it is a high classed brothel. He picks up girls when he goes out and seduces them, never sleeps with the same woman twice.

A bit of a job description change. Does he have anger issues or issues with the whole safe job dangerous job thing? Is he a catholic priest? That's a culture shock for him. He'd be looking for alot of stability. What kindastuff does he do as a cop?

He does have anger issues. Gangmembers killed his best friend when he was a teenager and he's still very angry about that. He used to be a catholic priest yes and he's a homicide detective. He makes an analysis of the way a murderer kills, makes a profile of the killer and tries to catch him.

His father was a deacon in catholic church. Dallas had his rebellious time in his puberty when he played rock with his friends. That was when his friend got killed. I think he might have become a priest because of his family and because he didn't know what to do after his friend got killed. He ditched his music and never touched his instruments again until he quit being a priest.

It's also got something to do with the shepherd protecting his flock thing. At one point he got fed up with hiding between the church's walls and didn't see how he was protecting his flock when all he did was leading the ceremonies. (I know that's not what priests do all the time, but it is part of their daily rituals. I'm catholic myself and also did several catholic religion courses in church).

These days he still finds stability with his family, his mother and dad and younger brother and he still prays which is why he has his own shrine in his home. That's all the stability he thinks he needs.

So... pardon the comparison here, but an ex catholic version of Nagawa? He has a VERY similar back story. Except some things are changed around a bit I'll have to have a read of the story when I'm not working on the comic. I *so* don't have time till next month T.T 16 days... 12 pages

That wasn't what I had in mind, lol. I didn't plan on making a Nagawa. At first I wanted to create a very idealistic cop, but that wouldn't show how dark Underground City is. I do have an idealistic partner in there, Dallas's partner, but he gets killed later on.

I thought I was going good with Dallas, wanted to make him completely a character of mine by making him an ex priest, but I guess I can't escape my influences.

I'll take your word for it ^^ I wont know till I read him in action

(I always thought Nagawa as idealistic... Sure his job were pretty dark, but he had a clean cut goal in his job...)

Yeah, I thought Nagawa and Mai were both idealistic in their own way, what with Nagawa wanting to be a better cop than his father was. Gosh, I loved him in Macropolis yelling against the chief about how there was a baby that would never know its mother.

Forgot to reply to something.

I don't know if you can call anyone of my major characters the hero. Dallas is a cop with a disliking for the gangs he's trying to help protect. Doesn't think they're worth protecting.

Newt and Scandal are both criminals, trying to survive in a harsh town as members of their respective gangs. I doubt they all view themselves as heroes nor do they wanna be. They're just trying to stay alive. Anti-heroes, I think that's what they are.

Yeah- I did too XD It's like... OMGs- that kitteh is HOOMANISED!! XD Jilly's pic is funnier for closeness though ^^ It's totally that kitteh *cuddles Clay*

Yeah- I gotta redraw that stabby page T.T The current page for it sucks MAJORLY now I've done all the others around it now T.T You know how hard it is to find seppuku pics? T.T I was hunting for HOURS for references >.>

I googled images for seppuku and got quite a few, but perhaps these are not what you are looking for. This one seemed pretty realistic, it is rather bloody. http://www.opaoparoxymalmemories.com/img/seppuku.gif

Unfortunatly, that picture falls under the same catagory most seppuku pics do. Its dramatic and gorey, but VERY unclear, and not concise. ended up using this stock picture on DA http://linzstock.deviantart.com/art/Seppuku-3-59683818 as a guide on how the hands were placed. I'm not sure if I should tell them though as I really haven't used anything from the original pic... I just needed to know how the hands would be placed. I didn't like the angle much though >.>

Since poses are not copyrighted and you did not use the actual image, I would say you are probably not obligated to cite them unless you feel it is necessary.

I thought about it, but the person sounded a little anal about making profit on the stock images, and I didn't want to have them force me to pay them royalties. Plus it seemed stupid, so I thought not, but yeah- poses can't be copyrighted, so that was another excuse I changed way too much on the image for it to even be associated with it now, so I'll think I'll leave it ^^ Thanks

The boarders? Yeah- I hate having up down, left right ones all the time. I'd like to try out some weirder shapes when I get use to it more

it works out great

Oh! Ok ^^ That's why I couldn't find it XD