Trouble Brewing...

Posted Feb 13, 2008, 3:07:44 PM UTC

Yes, once again my muses have been arrested by my favourite cop character Wolfgang Oden. This time though his swordmaster/bounty hunter twin brother Heinrich wanted in on the action too so how could I say no? Eventually it will be the two of them sitting in a sauna but since its a WIP, you'll just have to deal with them in flat colour.

Any advice for their legs and feet would be appreciated. I hate drawing feet... ><

And yes I have a lineart without colour (or towels) but I dunno if I should upload it... try and convince me. :P

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  • Feb 13, 2008, 3:52:26 PM UTC
    Unless their feet are resting on ground, I don't think they're relaxed enough. Yeah- I agree also with the belly button and thigh thing also. Yes I suggest googling a ref pic ^^
    • Feb 18, 2008, 6:00:54 AM UTC
      Their feet will be resting on the floor if I ever figure out how to do a decent woodgrain brush. :/
      I'm not sure what you mean about the thighs but the belly button always gives me trouble. I did use reference pics but the correct placement still eludes me. Rawr...
      • Feb 18, 2008, 11:35:01 PM UTC
        Right, I needed to go home to do a red line for this and I hope you appreciate it - I'm kinda meant to be working on the comic at the moment ^^; Lol It's ok though- as long as it helps I'm cool with criting Smile

        Main things I see-
        *The waists tend to be a little too skinny. Even bishie men are a stockier form than women. It also flattens off alot when the arms are up. Men's chests are kinda weird that way.
        * The short haired guy's right leg is rested on the ledge more cause it's twisted away- that means his foot can't reach the ground. That'll throw you off cause you'd need to make the leg longer to compensate, which you did. I've given a very rough sketch of where I think it needs to be... Can you tell I'm bad at toes... thus the scribble XD Lol
        *That bottom ledge needs to be raised.
        *The thigh corrections are there. You got it nearly there. I can tell you used references though Smile It's mostly muscle tone stuff. They look like they should be a bit toned so I've taken that into consideration Yes
        *Still bugged with long haired guy's pose. I think its cause of his legs- they're not relaxed. I think the feet need to separate more to being below the knee. Give him a center of gravity
        * The heads are a bit big, but that's ok. it's all style in the end. It's if you're happy that's important with that kind of thing. I though I might point it out in case it was unintentional. It does make them younger looking which has a bishie flavour so its not a bad thing ^^

        The above stuff are like... nitty picky stuff. You've got the basics there, and the picture tells a story which is the big thing Smile I hope I've been a help ^^; I know throwing this much crit at you can be overwhelming, but I'm hoping that it can give you a better idea about why it may bug you a little. Art has a bunch of unwritten rules that I'm still learning. You can accent somethings, but some things need to remain constant.. I think I'm beign true to that with my crit ^^; Heh... Alright- I'll shut up now cause it's SERIOUSLY late and I've done no work on my comic yet *flees*
        Image attached
        • Feb 25, 2008, 5:29:44 AM UTC
          Oh thank you! *glomps* I do appreciate it!!

          * yeah, I'm still working on the waist thing. I like how the short haired guy's torso turned out but I may thicken him up a bit.
          * I was going to try and make the seat they're on angled slightly but I may have to get the background done first then make adjustments accordingly. I hate backgrounds!
          * definitely toned. Embarrassed Heh heh... I have a lot of trouble with leg definition so any help is greatly appreciated.
          * Yeah, its partially intentional since the long haired one is almost never relaxed around his twin mostly because he never knows when the next 'attack' is coming. Still, I'll see what I can do with his feet since his pose bugs me a bit too.
          *Another issue I have but I think if I buff the bodies up a bit that might help. I am happy with the shorter haired one but the other needs work.

          You are awesome! Thank you! Worship I really do appreciate this even if I don't agree with all of it. Thank you so much!
  • Feb 13, 2008, 1:34:35 PM UTC
    Id say the feet and legs are good, but the thighs should be more round at the top to give it them that round 3 dimensional shape. The only thing that stood out noticeably is the placement of the belly button, it should be moved up one more spot in the abs, otherwise its really good. Hope i helped.
    • Feb 18, 2008, 6:01:58 AM UTC
      They were round on the straight lineart but I guess the towel is kinda hiding it. Hopefully I can fix that if I ever get to the shading stage. Gah... bellybuttons!
      • Feb 18, 2008, 1:24:05 PM UTC
        yeah ive been noticing a lot of bellybuttons since that comment, they are weird.