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not much to say about this one. though i'm pretty pleased with how it came out the lighting is still bothering me... of course i've never tried to do the shadowing that would come under a figure when sun rays are involved [emoticon] , it was a bit of a pain..lol. well tell me what chya think? ^^ this is actually a re-do of an old version.. wich i had previously put little shading or effort into,hehe. enjoy [emoticon]

oh! btw if yah want to see the old version here it is ^^ it was done nearly two years ago and i thought it was about time i re-did it

http://www.deviantart.com/view/18588278/

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Submitted by: grey wings

Posted: Feb 15, 2006 7:14 pm

Completed: unknown

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Galleries: Animals, Fantasy, Finished Work, Original Art

Keywords: deep waters, original, horse/fish

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Jill V. -S.T.A.R.S.

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Feb 15, 2006 7:44 pm

oooo very nice! just love the whole look of it. And yes shading can be very hard but it looks like you've got it down pretty well. I love the lighting effects...amn I cant pick ou one thing I love about this I just love the whole thing! [emoticon] What did you use to color it btw?? It looks like a computer coloring job.

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 15, 2006 8:07 pm

yesh it is computer colored, lol, this was one of the few pictures i've ever done 1oo% on the comp. and thank you very much [emoticon] lol, you just made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, hehe. [emoticon] (yesh, yesh i know,how very corny of me to say, lol, i was just really hoping for a coment on this ,haha. ) thanx again [emoticon]

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Jill V. -S.T.A.R.S.  (Reply)

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Feb 15, 2006 8:19 pm

[emoticon] no prob! And it's very deserving of a comment.

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 15, 2006 8:20 pm

awe, shuks [emoticon] lol [emoticon]

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arkillian

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Feb 15, 2006 10:37 pm

That's DEFINETLY more interesting than the first- I like the lighting effect in this one the best. My only critique is that is it quite fuzzy. It's a little hard to describe, but when you look at it, it looks out of focus cause there isn't anything with a solid edge on it except that eye. I stongly suggest going over this picture with a brush that isn't quite solid, but can give it more of an edge. It'll make it look more seperated from the water, and make it easier to see the details. This make a little sence? ^^;

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 16, 2006 6:40 pm

well actually, the fuzzy look was what i was trying to stress the most... perhapse i might have done it too much? oh well, thank you ^^

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arkillian  (Reply)

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Feb 17, 2006 2:25 pm

Cause it's water? Water would bend the edges, not neccesarily blur them (Unless the horse is ment to be blurred cause it's not real?)- I'd use blurring to make something in the background seem unimportant. My suggestion is surfing the net for underwater pictures and see how it's effected in that. Water lightens everything with a fluid feel, but it doesn't make it blurry. just darkens as it get further back.

My rule of thumb is to make anything the subject sharp though. It's only an opinion [emoticon]

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 17, 2006 6:11 pm

okiesm you'r rule makes sence to me ^^ darn though..lol. i really tried for the blurred look,haha. ohwell thank you for the help [emoticon]

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arkillian  (Reply)

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Feb 17, 2006 6:22 pm

Well, blurred isn't bad- why did you want a blurred look?

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 17, 2006 10:47 pm

because the original one was done in blurr and people liked it, so i fugured i should stick with it [emoticon] lol, ohwell though.

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arkillian  (Reply)

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Feb 17, 2006 11:27 pm

There's nothing wrong with a blur- its just whether it suits it or not. Most people love my drawings of guys where they are all hot and sultry, but I can't always draw them like that. I figure that if you draw the picture to convey a messege, then that is better than drawing an audiance. My suggestion- don't go for what others want you to do, unless they have a valid reason. Just cause someone says a character has to be drawn some way, doesn't mean that they should. Draw what's in your heart. If your heart still wants it to be blurry, then nothing I can say can change that. Art is about the artist expressing something. I can only suggest how I feel things react.

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Underwater/Vanuatu/MoorishIdol2ThreadfinButterflyfish2OtherButterflyfish.jpg this is a perfect example of what I think you thought would happen. The fish are hazy, butit's not cause they are blurred- it's cause there is fragments in the water that block the image of the fish from being seen by the viewer (the rest of it is jpg blurring the picture to heck ^^; )

Basically, all I'm doing is giing a suggestion to make it more realistic, but at the end of the day, if you think it should be blurry for a reason, then make it blurry. All I'm doing is suggesting that It would sill be sharp [emoticon]

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 20, 2006 5:51 pm

yeah, i seewhat you mean, and now that i'mm looking at it with a fresh eye i have to agree, i love the way the face came out, and i think it would look better if the whole thing was done with that feel, thankies for continuing to press the issue, lol. (i'm not trying to say that in a rude way, just couldn't think of howto put it,hehe.) i'll give it a shot right now ^^

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arkillian  (Reply)

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Feb 20, 2006 8:49 pm

Sorry about that [emoticon] I just wanted you to understand that just cause I suggested something that it should be gospel. You may have a totally different idea for something- often someone querrys how I finished something, and there is always a reason. And they're always like- duh, of corse that is the subject, which is why you did all that weird **insert what I did in a strange way**

Its all about artist expression. Break the rules as much as you want, just leave a few together, so we can fully appreciate the subject too [emoticon]

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 20, 2006 9:00 pm

lol,okies.thank you very much for the insite... grrr, i fixed it on my other computer, and the internet's not working on it... [emoticon] oh well, maybe i'll post it tomorrow... hey, have a question... should i just use the edit tools and replace the old version with the fixed up version, or just repost it?? yeah.. i still don't know what i'm doing when it comes to this site..lol.. i should get over my lazyness and read the rules fully some time..lol. thanx again [emoticon]

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arkillian  (Reply)

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Feb 21, 2006 2:42 am

I think if you upload over the old one it updates them to a rescent pic... You'll have to ask BR how that works...

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 21, 2006 6:14 pm

don't you go to edit art or sumthin? [emoticon] well, my comp's workin again so i'll put it up now ^^

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arkillian  (Reply)

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Feb 21, 2006 9:37 pm

The sharper version does look alot nicer [emoticon]

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 22, 2006 6:04 pm

yay! lol, let's throw a party!!! thanx again for the critz ^^ i liked it a lot better when i changed it too [emoticon]

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Saiyangirl4ever

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Feb 16, 2006 10:37 am

Wow! [emoticon] [emoticon] This is amazing! [emoticon] It`s like I`m in the water too! [emoticon] And the light falling from the surface is just astounding! [emoticon] Amazing work hun! [emoticon] I love the light effect you`ve made!And it is sure better than the old one. [emoticon] awesome job indeed! [emoticon] Much love! [emoticon]

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 16, 2006 6:38 pm

yay!!!! lol, yesh, when i finished this, it was supposed to be just a quicky to get back into the practice of my horse-fish things,lol. (never was too great with the name of it,haha) but when i was done i looked at the old one and my jaw dropped at the difference in quality, haha. & thank you! [emoticon]

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thedemonsess

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Feb 16, 2006 12:39 pm

This is just fabulous. Lighting must be very tricky to do. It's one of the hardest things to master in a picture, in my opinion. But, you've done a great job here.

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 16, 2006 6:35 pm

really?! that's such a relief! lol. thank you so much for da comment [emoticon]

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thedemonsess  (Reply)

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Feb 17, 2006 7:57 am

No problem.

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Sayonara Ame

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Feb 23, 2006 5:54 am

This is really beautiful! [emoticon]
I love the underwater effect and the lighting, gives it a mysterious look. Maybe the bubbles could be more transparent but everything else is very well done. [emoticon]
I love the horse's hair floating around him and the way his eye conteasts with the blur of the water. There's something dreamy and melancholic about this pic. Well done! [emoticon]
Btw, I love the old version too.

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 24, 2006 5:41 pm

awe thanx ^^ hummm [emoticon] make the bubbles transparent... dodn't think of that, hehe. i think i'll give that a shot! hehe, and i like the way you depicted it, "dreamy and melancholic " in a sense i think that's what i wanted out of this one [emoticon]
gasp! you like the old version! no way! lol. i felt it was lacking in...everything,lol. thnakies again [emoticon]

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Sayonara Ame  (Reply)

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Feb 26, 2006 3:18 am

You're welcome. [emoticon] By the way I really love your icon, it's really cute. [emoticon] And I do think the old version was good even if it does have a plain background. I loved the horse's pose in that one. [emoticon]

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grey wings  (Reply)

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Feb 27, 2006 4:46 pm

thank you ^^. yeah, i was talking to my mom about doing that pose again, she liked it too,lol.

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Sayonara Ame  (Reply)

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Mar 1, 2006 12:51 am

Welcome.^^

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m o n i e e

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May 28, 2006 11:04 am

Ohhhhhh.. Its just B E A U T I F U L. Instantfav!

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grey wings  (Reply)

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May 29, 2006 3:02 pm

oh! thank you very much [emoticon]

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