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InuyoujoLevel: 10 | XP: 80
With the way things are looking with this election and the way people are talking, I want to believe a major shift is about to happen with this next presidential election. A shift is long over due with our government wasting our time and money, and trying to take away our rights while selling us out to other countries. This election for our new later will be the game changer on what our idea of "democracy" has turned into since our slave-owning "founding fathers" started it off.
As scared as I am for my safety and rights, I'm very interested in seeing what happens, and I doubt I'll leave he country if the team I dislike is elected. I just want to watch our world burn, now.
I voted Bernie in the primaries. Don't even like him anymore. Would vote for him if Clinton and Kane somehow died in a bus. I am going to go third party. As artists we should fear both main candidates. Trump wants to extend libel and slander laws, Clinton says she has it out for independent media, which we could loosely be looped into, and she has gone at memes which are definitely an art form.
I don't feel like third party can win, because the historical precedent is close to nil for third party wins on a national level. Generally whatever side sends most of its voters third party, simply gives the other side the majority. But if someone genuinely sees no good options on the main voting ticket, I'm all for them following their conscience so they can be happy with their choice.
Me... Even thought I don't LIKE either main candidate, I dislike Hillary less viscerally. Some of the stuff Trump's said and done legitimately scares me, and he also seems like enough of a loose cannon I'm concerned what sort of diplomatic incidents he might set off. So I'm going with the option I expect to screw the nation over less severely in the long term.
Hillary's got how much against her? Very liberal politically but ditto for Bernie on that one, put sensitive information on an unsecured machine (she's not the first to do so in government but it's one of the most frequently cited problems with her leadership skills), may have gotten physical in fights with husband at some point which... really isn't cool if true but I haven't heard a source on that one (and we know quite a lot that smells wrong on Trump's domestic history if we're using that as criteria). Other than that, feel free to tell me what I'm missing.
Trump... Domestic history, fairly skeevy language on the topic of women including his wife and daughter (not an absolute deal-killer for a leader of state perhaps but as a woman it does bother me), financial history says he's not even an excellent businessman (multiple bankruptcies), scam-running (Trump University)... and that's before we start getting into the actual politics of the man. Also: frequent habit of saying he "never said" things he provably has said either on social media or to the camera - awkwardly worded rhetorical trick, or continuous outright lies?
And his VP Pence once proposed a bill saying that all miscarriages and abortions should be buried or cremated (which even from a strict religious pro-life perspective isn't manageable with the number of natural miscarriages early in pregnancy which happen simply by women being on their period - so, either anti-science or doesn't bother to research topics before passing laws on 'em?) and is pro "conversion therapy" for gay minors, so not a big fan of the running mate there either personally.
Like... everybody is free to their own opinion, but since I'm leaning more liberal than not these days personally (and am a woman who's in the closet and currently financially dependent on her conservative family of origin), I don't really have a strong political draw towards Republican candidates in general. And then I stack on top of that my personal distaste for the man. It would take a very significant turn of events for me to vote for him, and if my goal is to vote against him - well, as I said, third party has poor national precedent, and who would I vote for in the third party pool in any case? Anti-vaxxer Jill Stein?
I do not want to let their personal choices cloud my judgment of them as leaders too badly.Kenneddy an Churchill were pretty rough around the edges. Kangaskhan was famous for his rapes but was also one of the first tyrants to put gender equality laws into effect.
I don't much like Jill Stein, and I stopped loving Bernie after he started saying white people don't understand poverty. I would love to invite him down here to the land of rebel flags and heroin. I feel like she probably believes in that sentiment more strongly than he does.
I am going to vote Gary Johnson most likely. I am really liking some of Trump's actual written policy, but it completely flies in the face of what he says in his speeches. If I won't vote Hillary on account of two facedness, can't be a hypocrite and take a risk on Trump.
Mm... granted, that personal failings don't always mean a leader won't do something good in an official capacity when it comes down to brass tacks. But when personal failings include what people have done "officially," what they've done to their businesses and money at the professional level in the past, I think there is some cross-contamination to consider - and there's also the matter of the international stage, and whether someone's being highly undiplomatic could increase the number of unwanted ruffled feathers. And as you mentioned, Trump's speeches can be - bothersome - and if I can't be certain how much of the worst of what comes out of his mouth he would actually follow through with, I would strongly prefer not to risk it.
Johnson is still Not Trump/Pence, so that at least is a plus to my mind.
Johnson is a guy I almost never disagree with. And I would just die from excitement if we got a third party guy even to the debates.
Though I think that personal/political cross contamination applies more to Hillary than to Trump. She can't involve herself in anything without trying to get a piece of the pie. Whereas the Iranians are afraid of us, Saudis know Trump is an idiot. China doesn't care about our silly orange man and his words, and Putin thinks it is just an out of shape him. I don't think Trump's more aggressive speeches would damage relations with them too badly. Mexico, however. That is another story entirely. And I so do not want an enemy on the border. That is what keeps India and Pakistan out of the first world.
InuyoujoLevel: 10 | XP: 80
And now, here we are MONTHS later. Look at what we've done. Don't worry about 3rd parties because this was the last election.