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Posted: Jun 25, 2006 3:40 pm

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Nessarose

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My picture As Long As You're Mine needs some work and I never got a lot of constructive criticism on it, so please give me an opinino or something.  I personally think it's horrible.

But for whatever reason, it definately needs improvement.

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Posted: Jun 25, 2006 4:16 pm

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On Jun 25, 2006 3:40 pm, Nessarose said:

My WIP, As Long As You're Mine needs more, but I'm not sure.  You guys probably never saw it because

A. It totally sucks

B. It's never been favorited

C. You aren't interested

or D. It looks bizarre

But for whatever reason, it definately needs improvement.



Hang on- before making a statement, did you make a forum messege saying that you wanted attention about it?

Second thing, if you want to make a forum on something specific that is posted here, PLEASE leave a link.

Third thing- I may be interested, but I know I rarely have time to go through storys and comment on EVERY picture posted here.

Please go easy on people here- if we haven't commented, it's no insult to you. Some people just don't have time to look at every story. Now, if you'd like people to comment on it, please update your first messege to include a link, and reword it to say that your would like some advice on it, please.

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Posted: Jun 25, 2006 6:12 pm

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Well, Nessarose, I've never seen anything like it. xD

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Posted: Jun 27, 2006 5:57 am

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Well, personally I think that it's horrible liek all my other art, but I just want people to give tips, not comments, cuz comments usually go like this:

A. I love it so much!  You did awesome!

B. It's weird... but ok.

C. Who is this?

and other non-constructive criticrism and stuff.  I just want people to say if they think I should add something or not...

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Posted: Jun 27, 2006 3:25 pm

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OK- if you want advice to get beter, my suggestion is to find some reasonable quality, unlined white paper, and pencil, then ink your art onto that, then scan the image as a black and white picture and didgetally colour it like that. Basing off the fact that your art is all digetal, I'd safely assume yuo don't draw by hand, but with a mouse? ( I assume this), and cause of this fact, your lines aren't as accurate as you could make them. I know that if I were to (have the paitence to) draw with a mouse, it'd come out similar simply cause the movements of the mouse are ment to get you from a to b faster- not to mimic hand movement. See, a tablet has a relative pointer, which puts the pointer of the mouse on the same place on your screenas it is relative to the tablet *time for the english version* A mouse to get from the top to the bottom of the screen, you stroke the mouse downwards till you get to the bottom. A tablet, you tap the bottom of the talet screen and it's there.

Doing art by hand is FAR cheeper than tablets though- they are handy for colouring .I have a tablet, but it cost me $700 odd dollars NZ ($550 odd US?). Paper is cheep, so is pencils and ink, and a new scanner costs $100 NZ, so Americans have to get it for less. If you put you efforts into a line art which you can acheive easier, you'll find the quality increase.

Anything from there onwards, and I'll be taking your art in a differtn direction, so I'm not going to get into proportions and stuff, cause that is part of the american manga style.

Unless you want to change.

That's my 2 cents

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Posted: Jun 29, 2006 6:45 pm

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See, a lot of you guys don't get it because my scanner is liek permanently broken so I'm forced to do everything on paint, which is horrible because there are no cool effects that you get and stuff, and then Iit's even more evil becasue all my lines are crooked because my mouse has a mind of it's own.  It's an evil little mouse.  Plus, I have no artistic talent, so that might be the case...

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Posted: Jun 29, 2006 10:03 pm

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On Jun 29, 2006 6:45 pm, Nessarose said:
See, a lot of you guys don't get it because my scanner is liek permanently broken so I'm forced to do everything on paint, which is horrible because there are no cool effects that you get and stuff, and then Iit's even more evil becasue all my lines are crooked because my mouse has a mind of it's own.  It's an evil little mouse.  Plus, I have no artistic talent, so that might be the case...


There are other ways if you're serious about art- A camera? Or borrow a friend's scanner and e-mail it to yourself? See- you already know how evil a mouse is, right? Its not going to make you a beter artist. That's the cold hard truth. If you want to get better, do art by hand, and beg, steal or borrow some way to post it here. Seriously. All you will ever acheive is to do block styled art caue mice don't have the freedom. Talk to your parents and get a second hand one off e-bay. If you don't do this, then please don't ask for advanced crit, cause I don't believe anyonecan give you pointers for drawing better when your tools are the problem, and not you. I've been there hon- just ask your parents. They aren't psychic. They may even buy you a new one if you're lucky.

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Posted: Jun 30, 2006 11:37 am

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Yeh... but I do draw a lot different on paper... but my stupid brother's camera is evil and he will NEVER EVER EVER!!!!! let me use it.

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Posted: Jun 30, 2006 12:20 pm

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On Jun 29, 2006 10:03 pm, arkillian said:
On Jun 29, 2006 6:45 pm, Nessarose said:
See, a lot of you guys don't get it because my scanner is liek permanently broken so I'm forced to do everything on paint, which is horrible because there are no cool effects that you get and stuff, and then Iit's even more evil becasue all my lines are crooked because my mouse has a mind of it's own.  It's an evil little mouse.  Plus, I have no artistic talent, so that might be the case...


There are other ways if you're serious about art- A camera? Or borrow a friend's scanner and e-mail it to yourself? See- you already know how evil a mouse is, right? Its not going to make you a beter artist. That's the cold hard truth. If you want to get better, do art by hand, and beg, steal or borrow some way to post it here. Seriously. All you will ever acheive is to do block styled art caue mice don't have the freedom. Talk to your parents and get a second hand one off e-bay. If you don't do this, then please don't ask for advanced crit, cause I don't believe anyonecan give you pointers for drawing better when your tools are the problem, and not you. I've been there hon- just ask your parents. They aren't psychic. They may even buy you a new one if you're lucky.

Speaking of borrowing a scanner, Nessa, you can always use mine if you want, it would probably be fine! So draw up some great pictures, and the next time you come over, just  bring the piccies to me and we can have them all uploaded on to the site! [emoticon]

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Posted: Jun 30, 2006 7:07 pm

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On Jun 30, 2006 11:37 am, Nessarose said:
Yeh... but I do draw a lot different on paper... but my stupid brother's camera is evil and he will NEVER EVER EVER!!!!! let me use it.


Yup- beter I'm guessing? Cause its more free?

Vegspicer- you two know eachother? Do team up!! *woot!!*

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Posted: Jun 30, 2006 8:27 pm

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On Jun 30, 2006 7:07 pm, arkillian said:
On Jun 30, 2006 11:37 am, Nessarose said:
Yeh... but I do draw a lot different on paper... but my stupid brother's camera is evil and he will NEVER EVER EVER!!!!! let me use it.


Yup- beter I'm guessing? Cause its more free?

Vegspicer- you two know eachother? Do team up!! *woot!!*


You know it! Yup we've known each other for like, uh 7 years, and yes, I hope to team up with her! [emoticon]

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Posted: Jul 1, 2006 1:42 am

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On Jun 30, 2006 8:27 pm, VegSpicer said:
On Jun 30, 2006 7:07 pm, arkillian said:
On Jun 30, 2006 11:37 am, Nessarose said:
Yeh... but I do draw a lot different on paper... but my stupid brother's camera is evil and he will NEVER EVER EVER!!!!! let me use it.


Yup- beter I'm guessing? Cause its more free?

Vegspicer- you two know eachother? Do team up!! *woot!!*


You know it! Yup we've known each other for like, uh 7 years, and yes, I hope to team up with her! [emoticon]


There you go Nessarose- you have NO excuse.  Get Vegspicer to scan it and e-mail yout he pics [emoticon] You can colour them in paint if you really want. Simple [emoticon]

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