Please Help

How can u make ur pics a JPG or whatever file u need...i do pics on the computer usin paint...but when i save it to my comp...it wont let me put it anywhere...can someone tell me how i can make it usable

What do you mean? Are you sure that you're not saving it to your "My pictures" folder and not realising it?

Paint defaults to the format *.bmp which is an uncompressed format that PD wont accept. At the bottom of the pop up window you get when you go to save is a drop down box. Change that to jpeg, or beter yet- PNG format. That would be more suitable for Paint pictures :nod: PNG files are loss-less, so it wont do crazy bleeding effects like JPEG does

Once you figure that out, save it to an area of your computer you can easily find. I suggest your desktop. If it still wont allowe you to save it, then you'll need to check if you have permission to make new files on the computer you're on, or if you have the *disk space*

Hope that works

Thank you...im gonna go try that out right now..i hope it works

Well i checked it out...when i clicked on the drop down list...all the save files i got were bmp files...so idk what im gonna do

Right at the bottom of the list should be png, tiff, jpeg, and gif- they have the BMP, or the uncompressed formats at the top. PNG is the best, but you may need to view those files in a web browser to see them. I assume you don't have issues noramlly looking at art on the net? IE- you CAN see PNG files normally- right?

On Oct 15, 2007 5:10 pm, PsychoSnake said:

I've just checked this out as I ahve have paint on my comp, I don't use it for anything other than converting a BMP to a JPG. I do know that if you click on either SAVE or SAVE AS you will get a tiny box that you can choose what file type you want. Plus you can click on the folder that is on top of the MY PICTURES folder & you'll reach your desktop. If you're out of disk space or you're not "allowed" to save on your comp, I'm sorry I can't help you. ^^;

On Oct 16, 2007 3:41 pm, kirayasha said:

>.> there's better programs for converting BMP to JPEG honestly. Most picture veiwers I know of can convert to a wide range of photo formats AND organise your art in an easily veiwable manner. Paint comes free with windows however....

On Oct 16, 2007 5:10 pm, arkillian said:

Since I do that only rarely & they're for my own personal veiwing pleasure, I'm not that worried about quality. If I'm going to do any CGing, I use photoshop. And yet I know a lot of peopel who do some fantastic work with Paint. So i guess it's a matter of prefference & what's available for what you want to do.

Convert it in Photoshop- that's better than paint. Personal veiwing pleasure or not- you shouldn't have to deal with poor quality if you don't have to.

Also- PNG format is better for non photograph pics. JPEG bleeds the colours alot to make it smaller. Compressed right, and PNG can be just as good without the quality loss

On Oct 16, 2007 5:47 pm, arkillian said:

Trust me, I would if I could, but for some reason Photoshop refuses to open BMPs for me. I keep getting error messages. I'm used to JPGs & since I'm only Cging for myself & friends who aren't professional artists, it works for me. I also work as large as i can, it's hairy when I have a ton of layers (PS likes to freeze up on my then if the image's too large & too amny layers) so I usually make it smaller when it'sa still a PSD & they really look fine to me. I guess that just goes to show just how little i know, eh? ^^; It must be why I like your art so much, it's the special something (a PNG instead of a JPG) that I can't identify, yet i knwo it's there.

What version of photoshop you using cause that makes no sense to me. Are you sure it's Photoshop or not photoshop elements or something? It doesn't make sence for it to do that. I assume you scan into this program too? Why do you need *.BMP files in the first place?

Chosing PNG format over JPEG isn't a professional astists thing- I use to get really annouyed at my computer when I was younger and doing art for my friends also- I did pokemon pictures, and all my reds and blues blured in my pokemon pics and it annouyed me SO much cause it was hideous- then my brother explained it to me:-

JPG is great for photos- things that have complex levels of colours, usually ones that are more natral to the eye cause how it works is the eye can't see red and blue as well as green, so it blurs the blues slightly, and the reds alot to save on information it needs to record. You may not notice it if your compression level is low. If you do that you may as well use...

PNG format- it'll soon completly phase out GIF format because (This is taking out a heap of stuff- PNG can do more than this) it is lossless- it has a coding that is efficent enough not to destroy the art while making it a small file. It can also do 16 million colours- unlike GIF which is only 256 (sounds alot, but it's really NOT ). PNG also does layer support and animation (never played with these functions). The big thing about PNG though for YOU is that all your hard work STAYS.

JPEG is good for pencil drawings and photos, PNG is best for digital art

Once you figure out which format is best for your picture, then even the size of the file doesn't matter cause PNG files aren't that big (if you compress it right), so I'm not sure why you'd *want* to make your digital art JPG format. As you see above, it's just as easy to use a lossless format like PNG. It's nothing to do with skill level- it's quality. Bogus Red would be beter to talk to about the full range of stuff PNG can do than me

So yeah- don't sell your art short by destroying your work- specially if you can't make it large to toy with your layers. I have tones of memory so I can do huge pics, but it doesn't mean the end result can't be as good as it can be.

*will stop now she sounds like she's preaching the PNG god or something....*

On Oct 17, 2007 12:40 pm, arkillian said:

*laughs* I had to go look... it's Photoshop CS2. ^^; You've totally lost me here with all this. Anyway the reason I ahd to convert BMPs to JPGs was an old epal of mine used to send me the most adorable little pix and things like bday cards that she made from screne caps via email, & for soem strange reason, hotmail wouldn't let me save it as anything else. So I ahd to convert it in order to post it on my site. Also when I want to open a PNG file it opnens in Macromedia flash & I can't figure out how to use the darn thing. ^^; So doing what I do really works for me. I can't see any difference in quality between the two. Then again, I've watch my Uncle's Hi-Def  TV & it looks the same as the TV I watch at home. So maybe it's my eyes & how i see things?

As for my layers, I tend to layer on the color in each layer, think of painting with a brush & paints, blending the colors until I get what is a "single layer" even though I may have gone over the same spot a hundred times. Plus I never really ahve more than 20 layers tops. It's more like 10-15 layers.

*laughs* I think the only time I used a GIF was when i made a sprite. XD

Anywyas, lets just agree to say it works for you saving as a PNG, but not for me. *huggles*

On Oct 17, 2007 6:02 pm, kirayasha said:

I have CS2 also so it makes things a little easier, but my first thought is file association. You're using a program that forces it's way onto your computer and that sux >.< I'll tell you how to open PNG files WITHOUT Flash

*is assuming you have windows XP to do this*

1. Open a folder- any folder
2. Go to to the menu "tools", then "Folder options"
3. Click the tab "File types"
4. In the box with your bazillions of file types, scroll down until you find PNG
5. Click on PNG at the bottom of your pop up window, it'll say that this file is asociated with Flash
6. Click the button "Change" beside that, and change it to open with something like.... Firefox or IE or what ever browser you use. Not Photoshop. Photoshop takes too long to open. Windows picture and fax veiwer is also good to open with as its also free with windows and will allow you to veiw all the pictures in your folder like an album. You may want to repeat this process with BMP, JPG,JPEG,GIF and any other picture formats you have. DON'T associate you Photohop formats with this program as they are specific for Photoshop, or flash files (since you seem to have flash) etc...

There- that'll fix your veiwing problems forever (Well- as long as you own that computer anyways...)

May I also mention- BMP format files are unnessecarily HUGE. If all you want to do is veiw them for fun, you shouldn't save any as BMP cause the pictures will take up heaps of room. My art on my computer (the small versions anyways) never exceeds 1Mb in size- They average 500Kb usually, but they're un pixelated and clean dispite being small- actually... I think my resolution on my screen is high enough to say that they're large pictures anyways >.>

Ummm... saving in photoshop, whether you use JPG or PNG format- save it under "Save for Web"- it's something my brother showed me. When you hit the save button, it doesn't optimise it for your picture. If you have a picture that you *know* only has 10 colours, you can tell it to save it with 10 colours, and it'll be small, rather than with a bazillion colours and be larger. You can also tinker with how it compresses, and get a preveiw of how it looks after being compressed. This is really cool to see exactly HOW different it looks when you save it as a JPG or PNG. You probably wont notice much difference in The pictures if you don't have the right eye though, so as long as you don't have a low compression on your art, you should be fine alot of the time. Best to save under this though cause it's actually easier.

Whether you use my advice here or not is up to you. They're just my thoughts since it's an issue that bugs me- picture quality. Just an FYI incase it seemed worth it too you. Just trying to help *salutes*

On Oct 18, 2007 12:12 am, arkillian said: