Barbie vs. Bratz

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Has anyone ever heard the news about Barbie vs. Bratz?

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What news?

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The people of Barbie filed a lawsuit against the people of Bratz.

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Heheh... I loled. That's hilarious. There are a heap of Barbie copies out there and they're suing Brats? is it cause Brats are takign their market? XD Lol. Seriously- corporate whiners ammuse me. Brats look nothing like Barbies, and Barbie didn't copyright the use of a doll for dress up. That's total trite. I hope they fail miserably.

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Actually I think Barbie won. There should be some news clips on the net somewhere.

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Hilarious! That reminds me of something...

When that new cyclonic vaccum cleaner 'The Dyson' began to show up in the U.S. An American vaccum cleaner company tried to stop it from being sold in the U.S. If what I heard is true this was yet another example of a company terrified of being put out of business by a more interesting product.

I don't really like the Bratz dolls myself but I can see why a young girl would. The Bratz dolls are so glitzy and upbeat. (However the Bratz theme of 'You should party all the time' disturbs me) Barbie dolls have been wrapped up in the whole 'Disney Princess' BS.

I KNOW little girls ( 5 - 8 years) like Princess' but there are no recent Barbie Dolls a young girl ( 10-12) can relate to. Examples from the past: Flight Attendant Barbie, Malibu Barbie, Ballerina Barbie, Teacher Barbie - or any of the normal roles a pre-teen sees in their life. Can't Barbie just go camping?! Nonetheless maybe Barbie needs to step up to plate and go 'hip' not 'fairy'. Plus it seems Barbie doesn't go 'clubbing' very often and Bratz never stop 'partying'. If Mattel sales slump they have no one to blame but themselves. So Mattel needs to cool their heels!

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Pshh Barbie is just jealous that she's not the top selling doll anymore XD But really that's pretty ridiculous. I'm not a Bratz or Barbie fan but it's gonna be kinda weird going through the store and not seeing them on the shelves anymore.

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Actually I discovered that the barbie vs bratz trial happend in June-July, 2008.

I just heard a snippet of the article yesterday on the radio.

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On Dec 5, 2008 7:25 am, Sliverbane said:

I KNOW little girls ( 5 - 8 years) like Princess' but there are no recent Barbie Dolls a young girl ( 10-12) can relate to. Examples from the past: Flight Attendant Barbie, Malibu Barbie, Ballerina Barbie, Teacher Barbie - or any of the normal roles a pre-teen sees in their life. Can't Barbie just go camping?! Nonetheless maybe Barbie needs to step up to plate and go 'hip' not 'fairy'. Plus it seems Barbie doesn't go 'clubbing' very often and Bratz never stop 'partying'. If Mattel sales slump they have no one to blame but themselves. So Mattel needs to cool their heels!

It's supposed to be providing a positive role model for the younger children -- it's supposed to be about roleplay, what you want to be, wether it be a flight attendant, a nurse or a fairie princess or something else entirely. At least with Barbie there's some variety (and she has more than two outfits that have bloody-gorram pants) because, maybe it just me, I get the impression that the Bratz outfit looks all the same - the ghetto faboulous and I'm pop/punk princess the same. And Bratz is just as bad as Barbie for having the princess thing, they just don't advertisement them as much as the punk versions.

And personally, I prefer Barbie over the Bratz dolls, maybe it's just pure nostalgia or the fact that I find Bratz dolls to be little skanks who promote excessive spending and disrespectful attitude and are uglier than those Troll dolls. But thats just me

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On Dec 28, 2008 7:40 pm, blackwinddragon said:

It's supposed to be providing a positive role model for the younger children -- it's supposed to be about roleplay, what you want to be, wether it be a flight attendant, a nurse or a fairie princess or something else entirely. At least with Barbie there's some variety (and she has more than two outfits that have bloody-gorram pants) because, maybe it just me, I get the impression that the Bratz outfit looks all the same - the ghetto faboulous and I'm pop/punk princess the same. And Bratz is just as bad as Barbie for having the princess thing, they just don't advertisement them as much as the punk versions.

And personally, I prefer Barbie over the Bratz dolls, maybe it's just pure nostalgia or the fact that I find Bratz dolls to be little skanks who promote excessive spending and disrespectful attitude and are uglier than those Troll dolls. But thats just me

Actually I think those Bratz dolls are ugly too. Their heads are too big and they those huge fish lips. My goodness they are the fish people.

At least Barbie looks normal. I just wish they make her a little more realistic. Like make her look like her age and give her some issues that a girls have to deal with in the near future.

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On Dec 28, 2008 9:44 pm, Animeiac said:

Actually I think those Bratz dolls are ugly too. Their heads are too big and they those huge fish lips. My goodness they are the fish people.

At least Barbie looks normal. I just wish they make her a little more realistic. Like make her look like her age and give her some issues that a girls have to deal with in the near future.

I' glad to know Im not the only crazy one who doesn't like them. And have you tried to guess what ethnicty Barbie is? Cause she has the tilted eyes of an Asian, the blonde hair and blue of a Northern European, but she's too dark to be Northern European -- possibly Italian? Or it's just a really fake tan. And I don't think Mattel would go there, it's supposed to be light and happy. There was a pregnant Barbie doll but there was such outrage about it that it got pulled of the shelves. And lets forget the fact that the dolls are not anatomically correct. I think parents would have an easier time teaching sex ed to their little girls if Ken had an actual penis and testes. Or at least an accurate 2D depiction. There might be less "that's what they look like?!" going on through girls head first time they sit in Sex Ed have to label the damn things.

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This is true. Barbie's waist is un-natrally too thin. She'd have to be 8foot for her spine to support itsself.

I like babrbie still thoguh. I don't know what, but even though she's out of proportion, I guess I never really cared, cause I remember playing with them for the sake of them being somethign to play with. I never thought about Barbie being sexy, just that she was an adult woman. I think people miss the point that barbie is the kids playing house, learning themselves what being an adult is. They don't look at barbie and go 'I must look like her'. I never though about looks till I was way past my barbie years.

Brats are ugly. They're cartoon stylised and look terrible as toys. They look like whores. It really is a shame that there are toys that pimp the Paris Hilton look, cause really, non of the girls dressed as whore till they came along (I say this loosly. There will always be someone that doesn't conform to this rule.)

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And then someone who had the audicity to make a live action "Bratz" movie Not even Barbie had that privillage. The only movies she's ever been in are those computer animated fairy tale one that goes straight to DVD/video.

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On Dec 28, 2008 11:02 pm, arkillian said:

This is true. Barbie's waist is un-natrally too thin. She'd have to be 8foot for her spine to support itsself.

True, she got dimensions to make a Victorian era women jealous. And what pisses me off the most is not that Barbie's got C-breasts or waspish waist but the fact that she has no butt to speak off. I suppose it's easier for the makers with the legs joints and such if she doesn't have an actual ass to speak of but still ...

And feminists that believe Barbie is a poor role model for younger girls is all hype in my opinion. Barbie is just a doll with impossible dimensions -- what enforces the "You MUST be Thin" attitude is the models/celebrities and the clothing companies, and there's even pressure from doctors and health officials warning agianst being fat and how you have to be "healthy." I think that's excessive, because people use that as an excuse to get spaghetti noodle thin.

In other words, it's not just Barbie but our whole Western culture. Like for example, there was a gorgeous full figuired model in a magazine while waiting for my hair to be done and they labeled her as "Plus-size" and I'm think, you're nutz right? How the hell is she plus sized? She's not fat at all!

I blame Western culture.

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Hon- at the age where you're playing with barbies, you don't care what she looks like as long as she has a pretty dress on. The adult lingo go STRAIGHT over their heads. If they know what it is, they don't understand it. Child anorexia doesn't happen often to kids. If it does happen, it's cause of family pressure usually. Parents wanting perfect kids. To be frank, the worst thing in the world to a pre ten is being DIFFERENT.

Like, wearing glasses. Barbie doesn't wear glasses. Barbie doesn't have braces. Barbie doesn't have flaming red hair. Barbie is perfect. You can't critique her. That's why kids like her. And tell me- what skinny kids has an ass at their age?

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But what about that time when the company decided to give Barbie a makeover? They reduced her breast size and gave her a less toothy smile. Is that an improvement?

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I haven't seen those so I reserve judgement. It's only cause the parent complained that they did it though

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I enjoy the barbie themed dolls - specifically the east Asian continent dolls: I personally own 2 Japanese barbies, Thai, Korean, 3 Indian (Hindu), Chinese barbies. Years ago they had GORGEOUS Geisha babrie for way too much $$$$! I think she was over 100 dollars.

As a kid I prefered Jem dolls! She was thicker looking, had small breasts, posable arms, rock out clothes and accessories, crazy make-up and had a Latin boy-friend!! [smiley] Move over Ken! Plus she could move er pelvis....with was fascinating in my 10 year old mind!! A few years ago I finally bought Pizazz of the Misfits on eBay!! I was 10 all over again! Oh, and the thing that sold me on Jem was that each dall has it's own expression. Some smiled, some were more somber, Pizazz practically sneers at you!

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I used to watch the Jem cartoon when I was a kid

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I haven't seen any Bratz advertisements for the last two weeks and neither have I seen the series again on Nickelodeon. Taking them off the air has really happened fast since the verdict.

I loved Jem as a child and I loved Barbie as a child. I didn't really care about her having big boobs and being skinny. for me she was just a doll I could play with and put pretty dresses on.

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