Harry Potter (read sixth book first!!!) [SPOILER]

Enh... I know that's a really vague title, so I'll be more specific: two things I want to talk about. But first...

IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE SIXTH BOOK YET (and you care at all about what happens), GO AWAY!!!! COME BACK WHEN YOU'VE READ IT, OR DON'T BLAME ME FOR SPOILERS!!!! >: (

Right. Actually, the first thing has nothing to do with the sixth book. I sort of wanted to talk about how AWESOME Jason Isaacs is (he's one of my newest 'heroes...' ). He plays Mr. M, if you didn't know. I don't know. I just think he's cool. I like his snake-head cane.

Mr. M: Me, too! Dual purpose: I can whack people with it, and I can curse them! *whips out wand from nifty "hiding" place* Mwahahahaha!

Second is about the sixth book. Basically, I wanted to know people's opinions of Snape. I won't say what happens in this post to give those few people who haven't read the book and yet are still reading this topic even though I gave them fair of warning... etc. I just want to know if people think he's good or evil, and what they think is going to happen in the final book. Again, I have my ideas, but I'll save them for later.

I think that he is good, and will prove it in the 7th book

MOD EDIT: deleted excessive emotions.

I think that Snape is good.

I believe this because:

1. Dumbledore trusted Snape because he probably knew something about him that nobody else did.

2. Snape hesitated before he killed Dumbledore and Dumbledore said "please" as if begging him.
I don't think he was begging Snape to spare him, I think he was begging Snape to kill him.
Dumbledore wanted Snape to get VERY close to Voldemort.
Dumbledore was willing to give his life for this.
Voldemort would NEVER believe that someone would give his life for such a cause. Because Voldemort believes that there is nothing worse than death.
So Voldemort is going to be convinced of Snape's loyalty to him and he's going to draw him closer for killing Dumbledore.

It's the perfect plan.

Of course not everyone would agree with me and I can't be sure that I'm right. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Call me simple, but I just think Snape is a rotten egg.

Okay, so I definitely think Snape is a good guy.

J.K. is the master of subliminal hints. At the begininning of the book, when Bellatrix and Narcissa visit Snape, he is reluctant to make the Unbreakable Vow that he will take over for Draco should he fail in his task. Dumbledore trusts Snape. He always has. When Snape kills Dumbledore at the end, I think it is mostly because he made the Vow to Narcissa. It was either him or Dumbledore. Part of him was afraid of dying, and the other part knew if he didn't do it, and Draco didn't do it, the other Death Eaters would do it. Dumbledore was dead. Nothing anyone could do about it.

Snape, however, feels wicked guilty about it afterward (whether it was his choice or not, he just killed Albus Dumbledore). Remember when Harry's chasing after him, and Snape keeps going, "DON'T CALL ME A COWARD!!!! AAHHH!!!!" Well, he feels a little bit like he was being a coward by sacrificing Dumbledore's life for his own. That's my thought, anyway.

My mom says the potion Dumbledore drank was going to kill him anyway, and Dumbledore knew that, and Snape knew that, and Snape was just putting him out of his misery. I don't believe her, though. You don't put Dumbledore out of his misery. You just don't.

My dad and I agree that Snape has to have a big part in the next book. We're sure he has to be the link to Harry's killing Voldemort; Snape has to do something huge, and probably sacrifice his life in the process (though I don't want Snape to die, *sniff*), so that Harry can finish the Dark Lord off. Lucius is going to go, I think, as are most of the Death Eaters, and possibly Draco (again, *sniff*). I don't really think she'd kill Draco, though, because I don't really think Draco's evil. If he were, he would have had no qualms about killing Dumbledore. To have Draco die an enemy when he really isn't would be insane. If she has Draco killed, she'll have to prove that he's on the good guy side first. Else I shall be deeply saddened.

My dad thinks Harry's going to die. I think that's dumb. He's the Boy Who Lived. He can't die. Harry, Ron, and Hermione are all going to come out alive. Definitely.

Oh, and McGonagall is Headmistress next book!!! Wheeeee!!!

Oh, and who's R. A. B? My dad thinks it's "Remus and Black," but that doesn't make much sense to me (first name and last name?). So I have no clue.

I think R.A.B could be Regulus Black.

Regulus is Sirius's brother.

Wikipedia has a good page on R.A.B, here's the URL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.A.B

I think that Snape is a good guy, but he REALLY doesn't help himself. I think he hates HArry mostly cause of his parents- who WOULDN'T?! If I was Snape, I'd wring Harry's throat hopeing that pain transfured over to dead parents... James screwed with Snape, and Snape didn't have enought to get back at him cause he was mister popularity.

I also could see Dumbledore dying before the big battle- I mean, Harry does use Dumbledore as a tower of strength, but he doesn't need Dumbledore anymore.The only way for Harry to defeat Voldermort and look like a TRUE hero is with Dumbledore dead. So he CAN'T help. Its a situation I'm having to face in my story Dragon Twins. I have so many super powered characters keeping my character alive till the end- I have to kill them off. Its sad, cause one of them has a HUGE fan base (One that rivals the main character's)

Harry dying though? I think he will, but that's still unclear. He's one screwed up little boy, with a HEAP of talent to be an aura, but I can't see him continuing. I can see him sacrificing himself in the last book, or some HUGE spell- I donno what of that will tear out his special abilities and leave him normal or something. As much as I'd love a happy ending, I think this book will be a happy ending with a sad twist- she's done it to all the rest of her books. I mean- we stopped the resorrection of Voldemort, but his follower escaped, and Sirius isn't cleared. But Voldemort is alive YET! *dies* She's a twisting writer- Rowling is...

On Dec 1, 2005 9:36 am, Psycho Kitty Net said:

You're not simple. That's just what everyone's supposed to think. If Snape were evil, J.K. wouldn't have made such a huge stink though the entire series of how much Dumbledore trusts him.

Tangent: Draco and his mom aren't evil, either. Draco's nasty, and he thinks he follows Voldemort (because he's been brought up that way), but it's also been made very clear that Draco is a coward. When he fails to kill Dumbledore at the end of HBP, he knows very well what his punishment will be. What would he be more afraid of: killing a man or being murdered by the Dark Lord? Draco has enough moral sense in him to choose death over killing.

Narcissa's not evil, either. She knows Voldemort will kill her baby if Draco doesn't kill Dumbledore, so she commissions Snape to do it in case Draco fails. If she were evil, why would she bother? Lucius clearly doesn't care one way or the other if his kid bites the big one; he's evil, no doubt about that. Narcissa, though, takes extra precautions to make sure Draco doesn't die. Also — and this is important — she trusts Snape. The only person we've really seen trusting Snape is Dumbledore. It seems like most of the Death Eaters don't trust him — including Bellatrix — so for Narcissa to trust him tells me she's not all that evil.

Yeah, just me rambling. Mucho de sorry. ^ ^;;

OKay. Well I finally finished reading the book so I can safely come to this topic now. And I must say I never expected that kind of a twist at the end.  I think you are most right about Rowling Tennis Pirate in the sense that she does add alot of plot twists to keep the reader's guessing. I in all honesty think that Snape will come through in the final book. I think there is enough proof in HBP that suggests that he didn't want to do what he did to Dumbledore at the end. I am only wondering if perhaps it was all some part of a plan they had. Do you remember after the incident in the cave (when Dumbledore and Harry were looking for the Horcrux -or whatever it is called) when Harry was taking him back to the castle, and Harry was going to go get help and Dumbledore kept saying "No... it must be Snape. I have to see Snape?"  Kind of makes you wonder. I have all kinds of thoughts as to what is going to happen in the final one, but as it has been said so many times, we will just have to see. I completely agree that Dumbledore knew something about Snape and that is why he kept saying he trusted him. And I think perhaps that is why JK has put so much attention to Harry's thoughts at the end . Maybe that is why she has him dwelling on the fact that Dumbledore trusted him.  I'll be waiting anxiously for the final book. I can't believe the series is almost finished. What are we all going to do with ourselves once it is over?

Ahhh... good point, Lady Anime, about Dumbledore wanting to see Snape.

I had assumed it was because Snape is the Potions Master, and Dumbly wanted him to whip up a quick antidote, but perhaps I am wrong...

OH!!! How about this: Dumbledore knew all along that Draco was supposed to kill him? Maybe he also knew about Snape and the Unbreakable Vow... Dumbledore's telling Draco that he's not a murderer and he doesn't have to do this, blah blah blah, because he knows Draco's not an evil person and he doesn't want him to get tangled in all this "Dark Wizard" business. However, if Draco doesn't kill Dumbledore, Snape has to, or he'll die. Dumbly knows this, too, so he is concerned that Snape get there in time. Snape is a very powerful asset to The Good Guys (being the double-agent I'm sure he is), and his death may be the final key to Voldemort's taking over of the world. Which would be bad.

AH! That's an awesome theory! I'm proud of myself now.