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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 6:43 am
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Hi Guys,
I've just woken up and i had yet another nasty dream. They say dreams are your unconsciousness speaking to you. Some say its a way to make you understand things you are not ready to understand completely just yet, but that has to get out of your system. It suppose to be why some dont remember their dreams in the morning. Other say dreams are full of symbols that you have to understand to get on with life...like enigmas you have to understand to know which path you will take in your life. And some think dreams are just dreams...
Ever since i can remember i dreamt of bad things. Not always mind you, i think i'd go crazy, but often the same theme returns in my dreams or should i say nightmare. The main theme is always the same, the civilisation as we know it is no more, its chaos everywhere. These dreams are not relaxing, people always die in front of me, blood everywhere...sometimes its a nuclear bomb, sometimes its the undead eating people. I hate these dreams the most, with the zombies i mean, i should write horror movies and i'd be better than the Author of 'The dead' serie (Romero).
At first, when i began having these beautiful dreams, i remember im my dreams i was always scared shitless, i hid and cried because everything was too scary and i always woke up, with my heart to my throat and sweat all over, seeing people die is no fun. But with the years i began to change in my dreams, i began to get out of my hidding...i was still scared mind you but at least i faced my foes (and was more often then not ,killed by them) .Lately, im like Rambo with big guns and i just kill the zombies or whatever enemies i have in front of me. Let me tell you, its not relaxing either to dream about bashing people's head.
I dunno why i always dream about that, sometimes im scared of the message that could be behind these dreams, im some psycho? My man says its just a metaphore that my brains use to talk to me, he says that it shows my own evolution, at first i was scared in my dreams and ended up blasting the bad people to the moon. In any cases, i just wish these dreams would go away...
Im curious as to know if they are other people who have recurring dreams, good or bad??
Dont worry, i shouldn't turn into the next american psycho (especially since im Canadian)
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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 8:01 am
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I have the same kinds of things. I have one dream where I'm with a few family members in a log cabin deep in the woods. The lighting is dim (as in, there are no artificial lights on in the cabin, just the dull blue-grey light of day). I walk into a large room, three great bay windows harkening up each wall. In the middle of the room is a stair well that leads...down. The area it leads to is completely black; I can see nothing. Then, something about the windows catches my attention. My dream takes on somewhat of a 'zoom' effect, and it's here that I find out what's caught my attention about them; there's blood raining from the sky, dripping down them. I turn back to the stairwell, and rising from it is a dark, cloaked figure. I can see no face, but there's blood dripping from his garb. He seems to materialize from shadow.
So no, you're not psycho.
I normally have this dream before/after a large event, or change in my life. Just the way my psyche deals with it I suppose. And this dream is a landmark for me; it's the reason I decided to get serious about art. The image of this figure materializing from shadow in this stairwell is so clear in my mind. After my first experience with it, I knew I would someday render it to express the kinds of feelings I get from it. I'm not to that point artistically yet, but I will do it when my ability fits the intense emotions I have with it. Words can't even describe how terrifying it is. I normally wake up, heart pounding in my throat, sweating.
I also have another that corresponds with life events. I'm in a large field, sitting on the grass with a few of my middle school days buddies. The grass is wet, the air cool. I'm not aware of it immediately in the dream, but soon realize we're all looking very intently at something. Off in the distance is a wall of clouds. They look thick and bruised, ready to unleash whatever they've got stored up inside them. Soon, lighting begins crashing; all the while we sit there, our environments untouched. I soon realize, (to my surprise I don't have much reaction in the dream) that this wall of clouds is leaving nothing in it's wake. The land, homes; everything is consumed. And I continue to sit, watching as the green and purple lightning and heavy clouds edge ever closer to me.
Like you, I also have dreams of people dying before me; mostly family. I think this is a way for our subconscious to act out it's fears in a most secret of ways, so we don't go crazy from keeping these emotions and fears (even if they are unfounded) bottled up. Dreams are interesting things, that's for sure. It's fun to try to understand them; they could mean so many things.
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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 8:49 am
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Brrr, i dont know if i see your dream like you dreamt it but ,damn, its spooky indeed. I just picture the 'apparition' coming up the stairs and i get goosebumps. It's amazing how we can remember some dreams, sometimes its so 'clear' that i can still see them even though i'm awake. Its so disturbing...
I have to agree with my b/f explanation because my dreams shows how i was when i was younger (hard childhood, i was subdue, scared of my stepmother and stepfather) and as i worked with these issue in my dreams i began to face my foe even if i got killed or hurt. Lately i've been confronting my parents about my childhood and in my dream i kill my foes...So maybe there is some connection, but im letting the door open for other explanation. Maybe i have anger inside that has to get out.
One of my most disturbing dream is a very old one, i was but a child and i still remember it. I was outside my parents house (when they were still married) and out of nowhere came very dark clouds. As the wind picked up and the clouds spread everywhere, a dark spot on the alley that led to the house began to spread everywhere, it was very dark, completely pitch black. My familly ran into the house to get safe but i couldnt run, as much as i tried to run the more my legs refuse to obey and the blackness kept coming. I've never forgotten that dream, its almost the same theme than yours...
You are right, it is fun to decipher our dreams, but i just wish i could stop dreaming about killing, im scared of myself in these dream. You should see me hitting my foes...
Thanks for sharing you dream Heidi!
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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 10:39 am
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I agree,
I went through a tough period in my life as well, with a man I'll refer to as my biological sperm donor (father just doesn't suit him
) I used to have dreams that I would beat him over the head with a 2x4 or stab him, do any number of awful things to him that would leave him dead. I told my mom about them, and the day after I was seeing an LCSW.
The social worker told my mom to ease her fears because having such thoughts, especially in a time of mental anguish, is perfectly healthy. I think you stumble in to aggression issues when you start planning these things; I don't think you need to be worried about 'thinking' them. And, dreams happen on a level to which we can't control. Our subconscious does what it pleases because it's on a different brain wave than what our conscious thoughts are, so I don't know if there's any way to make them stop...Other than to continue making your voice heard. Maybe, after you've confronted the issues (as you say you are now; which is so hard and I applaud you for it) your dreams of success and victory will be lighter, not so wrought with violence.
"I am lost. I have gone to look for myself, if I get back, before I return, please tell me to wait." -Unknown
Posted: Jan 20, 2006 10:51 am
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I often have dreams that aren't the same but really similar. In my dreams there's usually some sort of infestation of snakes everywhere that are striking people. I somehow find myself either alone or with family/friends trapped in a room full of them. Some how there's always a knife and I use it to stab the snakes straight through the head.
I made the mistake once of mentioning this in a class at college, the teacher told me I should read Frued since the snake is a phalic symbol. I just think I don't like snakes. Personally, I find them a little creepy.
For fun, I bought one of those interpret your dreams books and every once in awhile I'll look things up. I don't put much (or any) faith in them, but sometimes just reading some crack-pot meaning is comforting.
For instance, the book tells me that more then one snake means I will be let down by someone I love, and killing a snake means I'll suceed in difficult times. Sounds like some sort of literary analagy or symbolism, to me, but hey, whatever.
I don't know if I think dreams have meaning. I've had a couple prophetic dreams, but they were always things like I was really worried about and exam, and in a dream I passed it. Well, that could be my type A personality at work. i would say that I passed the exam in reality becaue I worked hard and studied, not because I had some dream about it.
When all soldiers lay their weapons down, Or when all kings and the queens relinquish their crown, Or when the only true Messiah rescues us from ourselves, It's easy to imagine, There will be sorrow no more
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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 11:27 am
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Hi emmet! I've read the book about dreams of Freud. I dont really like this guy, personnaly i think he's right on a few things but mostly i feel like he put his own psychological problem into his reflexions...anywho not the subject, but if i were you i wouldn't think too much about him, its interesting to read but not to believe completely! I think your snakes are like my zombies, im scared shitless of them and i think that my brain uses them as a symbol of what scares me, i think that what are aound the snakes is what is important, like the fact that you kill them with a knife, that you are in a room...etc. My mom, had a book like that, interpret your dream, i agree with you, its good not to believe too much in these, i mean there are so many different explanations...But somtimes it can help you think about your dreams
Karana, Yeah my b/f mom is a specialized educator and i once told her about a dream i had (i was hitting my mom) she told me that it was my brains way to let anger out since i couldn't do it in real life , not hitting her mind you, but just venting my rightfull anger at her. ( I toconsider both my parents as merely genitors btw, they dont deserve to be called parents)
I think your right. I'Ve read once that their is no problem in thinking a bad action, its a problem whrn you acted on them...pheww Thanks for the applaud, im still working very hard on that, its a lifetime quest!
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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 11:35 am
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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 12:01 pm
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Hey Red,
I think you are right about the symbolism book. I hadn't thought of it the way you did but it makes sense, i mean like you said a tree has a different meaning for everybody. What i like the most about these books , its more the way they help you think about them. I remember i had a few dreams where i was attacked by foes, in these dreams there was Colonel O'neill from Stargate (lucky me!!) and he was always there either to protect me or to help me fight. He was always giving me weapon so that i could kill the bad creatures. I read in the book that taking a weapon and actually shooting ,means that you are ready to confront whatever you have to confront. And it was in these time that i met my current b/f who help me so much with my shitty childhood, he help me realise a lots of thing and he's my protector against my family...i think O'neill was him.
I too have dreams about missing exams or classes, lately i dreamt that i had forgotten to get dressed and it was once in my classes that i realised i was naked...Nice. I think it just the stress of school that goes out this way. Congratulation about your father, i know how hard it is to confront our parents with our issue. I confronted my mom but i still have to confront him, i did call him (after ignoring him for 2 years) to tell him i had to talk to him. Major break throught. I think you are right about the explanation, i think maybe it was your brain telling you ,you were ready or just showing you how you felt inside. The fact that the dreams happens the way you usually saw you dad in real life is meaningfull. But i think you already figured it out... I read that driving a car in dreams its taking control of your life in real life.Who knows?
Lastly, i have to say this, you just touch a cord in me, when you say that things are better with your dad and then he just hurts you...Same thing with my entire family, it stop hurting me when i stopped hoping to have good things from them, now when they try to hurt me, im just not surprise anymore and im like...yeah yeah heard it all before. But im glad for you if things are better.
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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 12:19 pm
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Well I haven't had any recurring dreams in a long time but I think I know kind of what you're going through.
I used to dream that I was either a human and everyone around me was a demon out to get me or I was the demon and everyone else was human yet still trying to kill me. I was only a little kid but it was way too graphic even for me now *cringes* I remember one version of it where I asked one of my aunts why she was trying to kill me and she said in a sad voice "Because you are diffrent and you can never be one of us" I was terrified constantly because of those dreams. Now I realize they were just warped manifistations of how I actually felt. The only people I could really relate to even at a young age was one of my uncles who died right before they started to happen, my dad who was having his own mental problems because of a divorce between him and my mom on top of finding out that my one of my little bros had a form of cancer, and my grandpa who was also preoccupied with my sick brother. Because of all that and a few other things I won't go into I felt that I had no place in the family and that I was ment to be all alone. They lasted throughout my teen years until I got over a lot of issues.
The good recurring dream I have is a mixed blessing I guess you could say. It started a month after my little brother died, I was having a lot of problems because I thought I should have been the one to die instead of him and I was really upset that I didn't get the chance to say good bye to him. I started dreaming about the two of us flying over a tropical island and we would be talking when he would put on the only parachute in the plane and tell me that he had to go and good bye. I would beg him to stay with me or let me go with him and would just smile and tell me it wasn't time for me yet then he would say good bye again and jump. I had the exact same dream for a few months when I finally told him good bye in the dream and that I loved him and would miss him he turned and smiled at me and said I'll be around when you need me I love you too. After that I quite having that particular dream and life carried on as usual but I felt a little better about the situation. I've had dreams off and on like that since at times when I needed help or just had great news to tell him, like when I met my husband and married him and after the births of both of my boys.
I don't know what the really workings are but I really believe our dreams are ment to help us. LOL, do I sound like a loon now
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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 1:49 pm
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I admire you both, Lili and Red,
I have no relationship with my 'father', and none with my half sister and brother because of it. And I'm no where near the point I could speak to him; he's a violent, nasty person. At least, that's what I can remember. I last encountered him (in court) when I was 16; I'll be 20 in June. I don't even know if me saying anything would help; he's never wanted to understand my side of the story, so who's to say he would now? Last I heard he was living with a crack head, still on disability (which he was granted illegally) form his job.
Alot of the fears in life I have were laid out by him; I have an extremely hard time leaving my mom alone for long periods of time (I always imagine him breaking in and killing her); I can't have doors or windows unlocked (it wakes me from sleep if I know they're undone); in essence, I think he's the cause of alot of my nightmares.
The night before we were to go to his sentencing (he was convicted of breaking into our home, trying to kill my mother and kidnap me), I had a dream that I was standing alone in the rain. It was cold, but the temperature didn't seem to affect me much, because his face was hovering before me, screaming at me that we were going to lose.
We didn't!
Anyway, the whole point of this was to reiterate that I think our dreams are ways for us to act out emotions we wouldn't otherwise even think of acting. (Quick fact) In my psychology class last semester, we were presented with a study done to try and understand what it is that REM sleep does for us physiologically. This study took several fit, 20 year old college men, and subjected them to sleep studies. Whenever these young men would fall in to REM sleep, the experimenters would wake them. This would cause a disruption in their sleep cycle, and would make the entire thing start all over again. In essence, these men didn't get any REM sleep for an entire week. Mind, the conductors of the experiment would only wake them for a minute or so. By the end of the week, these healthy young men were begging that they be released from the agreements that they had signed. Obviously, REM sleep plays some huge role for our psyche; I just think it's funny we haven't figured it out yet.
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Posted: Jan 20, 2006 3:06 pm
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Heidi, i'm so with you on this...argh...if i could reach throught the screen. But i wont talk much about that here because its not the subject but i will return about it, i cannot stay unresponsive to what you wrote. Its incredible how our dreams can be important, so many proof here that they do talk to us...Sometimes to incarnate our fears, sometimes to help us rid of negative energy, sometimes to tell us where the problem is. I'm actually speechless...its uncanny in a way. Our brains loves us so much that he's hidding what he know will hurt in dreams so that we have the time to understand in our own pace. Incredible!!!!!Im of the type of person, easy to get in awe...
I didn't know what you wrote about rem, i knew that sleep is very important offcourse and that you can go nuts if you dont slee...but i never thought about REM...you sparked an interest, I'll have to look it up!
We sure are deep today, i love it, i never knew starting a dream forum would lead to such confession. I love you all.
Moon, i think you put your finger on the signification of your dreams when you were younger. Its very harsh for someone so young, must have been really hard, all of it , not just the dreams. At least, when the dreams stop you got to know that you had the issue settle, like Red and her dreams. I remember when my grandparents died, i was 14 and the night after their funeral i was sad and lonely because of all my family my grandparents had been the only one who loved me. That night i prayed for them to protect me and remain with me. I dreamt about them, i was in bed, in my room like in real life and they came. Even today, im not sure if it was a dream or real. They came to me and said that they were still here and that they would always watch over me, over all of us. I think its like you brother who came and visited you to help you, to give you the opportunity to say goodbye, im soo sentitive ,i feel like crying...here a huge virtual hug Moonee. My grandparents came to me to help ease the pain...im sure.
I'll have a new gaze on dreams from now on...
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Posted: Jan 21, 2006 9:04 am
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Hey Guys!!!
I know how it feels when you`re dreaming these kind of dreams
But I think my case was almost critical..
About a year ago I had 4 terrible dreams.Not just terrible.Terrifying and almost deadly.
I still don`t know what they mean,but I pray to God every night that I wouldn`t dream them again..*shudders*The most terrifying thing was,that I couldn`t wake up from them...*shudders* I just couldn`t..I scared my sister to hell,when she tried to wake me up for 15 minutes and nothing helped...For a minute she thought that I was dead..
After 15 minutes of shaking me and screaming at me I woke up.And that happened the next morning,and the next one too.Now about those dreams..I try not to think about them,but I think they will stay in my memory `till the day I die.I couldn`t figure out what they meant and only after talking with my father(yes,my mom and dad are divorced too
) I became a bit calmer.My dad said that I could have dreamed the ......future.Yes,the future.Actually The end of the world. 3 different endings of our world.And all of them were terrible.
I could tell you what was happening there,but it would be a long post..
The worst thing was,that I couldn`t wake from those dreams.And the strange thing was that I knew that I was dreaming and I tried to wake up,but failed...Thanks to my sister I`m okay,but believe me,I felt like I was going to die there..The 4th dream wasn`t about death,It was more mystical...When I told about these dreams to my father he said that he`d had one dream that was almost the same as mine.If you want,I`ll tell you what were those dreams about,but only if you want
..Now,I`m happy that I don`t have dreams like that anymore and I pray to God every night that it wouldn`t repeat again.My mom still doesn`t know it,`cause if she knew,she`d go crazy.
So that`s my story about dreams that nearly killed me!
I hope you`ll never have dreams like that in your life!
My love to you guys!!!!
May your dreams be only sweet and beautiful!
MMMmmmwwaaaaahhh!
There is no way to happiness.Happiness is the way.
~*~Thich Nhat Hanh~*~
Posted: Jan 21, 2006 9:18 am
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Posted: Jan 21, 2006 10:12 am
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Posted: Jan 21, 2006 1:11 pm
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Some dreams are just so weird sometimes, i took an habit of writing my dreams when i wake up, i have some sooo weird, a bit like yours, a lot of elements but nothing makes sense. but sometimes i get ideas for the storie im writing. You said you had a bike, i'm curious, what kind? Motorcycle?
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Posted: Jan 21, 2006 2:20 pm
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I know what you mean by getting ideas from your dreams
I had one a while back that was focued on a creature called a 'hybrid'. These hybrids were a weird mix of human and wild cat; the thing was, the relative 'wildness' of each hybrid was dependent on how much 'cat' you had in you. (My dreams are always very detailed). And, if you were human and so chose, you could be hybridized...at a cost of course.
Anyway, my dream was centered around a character (me in the dream; now my character Moana Ngaio (you can't have her! Or the idea!
) that was a sort of special agent with a task force to bring down rogue hybrids. Rogue hybrids were known to 'hybridize' people against their will...by a process that would be more appropriate for the Red Curtin.
So to be able to catch up with these rogue hybrids, each agent (each talented agent; hybrids are expensive!
)had a hybrid assigned to them (to be their mode of transportation, and a way to fight the rogue hybrids). Oh, and to get around, the hybrids had their own kind of 'highway' system; there were tall, enormously tall trees planted throughout the cities. The tops of these trees were shaved flat so the hybrids could use them as a kind of highway (hybrids could also choosed to live in the lower levels of the trees).......I was so amazed when I woke up after this dream; it was the kind where I tried so hard to stay asleep.
I've since elaborated on it and made characters and such, but the original idea was all from a dream!
Yarg, I've never had any dreams where I haven't been able to wake; don't wanna' know what that feels like...I feel for you deeply Saiyangirl!
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Posted: Jan 21, 2006 6:21 pm
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Some dreams are just so weird sometimes, i took an habit of writing my dreams when i wake up, i have some sooo weird, a bit like yours, a lot of elements but nothing makes sense. but sometimes i get ideas for the storie im writing. You said you had a bike, i'm curious, what kind? Motorcycle?
Posted: Jan 22, 2006 9:28 am
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Posted: Jan 22, 2006 11:24 am
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Psychokittynet: ok , i have to agree, a space ship that goes that slow is annoying, not really a breakthrought in alien technology
Argh, i dreamt a couple of time of being shot, its such a weird feeling, i remember i got shot 3 times in the back and 1 in the neck, i was bleeding all over the place but i felt no pain. Dreams and theirs messages can be hard to understand i guess, but i hear the number have a meaning, i remember in a dream there were so many number...hey i should try them to see if i'll win the lottery!
Bloodysmurf: Damn, you dreams were scary indeed, i can picture the people rotting alive, brrrrrr, I think you're right about that, that you dream about what you hear. I live near a highway, its not noisy, except when theres big trucks with the jacob break, the ones that makes sooooo much noise. Anyway, i was asleep and suddenly this big truck passes and hit the breaks, the loud BRRRRRRRRR GRRRRRRRR,make itself heard and In my dreams there was suddenly a dragon that went BRRRRRRRRR GRRRRRRRR, i shot up in bed, completely lost because i could still hear the truck and its noise, I thought the dragon was real. I dunno about this chupacabra, i look it up, im interested.
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Posted: Jan 22, 2006 2:13 pm
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Yea same here, whenever I dream about getting shot, I never feel the pain.
And I did once remember haveing a dream where a bunch of people were singing the munchkin song and I woke up and the Wizard of Oz was on.