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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 6:06 pm

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Hello again, everyone.  Once again I beckon to the world that is paperdemon to solve my problems.  You see, a very nice cousin of mine (wonderful John. I will love that man forever *cries happily* ) recently gave me a copy of Photoshop.  It's Photoshop CS2 ... 9.0?  Something like that.  Anyway, I don't know how to use it...at all.  I think I've gotten use of the zoom button and the brush.  That's it.  If anyone could give me a hand, I would appreciate it so much.  Thanks everyone!

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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 6:21 pm

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Layer's is a good start. If you go to the layers option in the menu tabs at the top, there is 'Duplicate layer' and 'insert layer' options. These will be your god for the time you use this program. To modify the layers you have, if the layers window is not already open, go to window at the top of the screen and select layers. This will show you how many layers you have. The ones at the bottom of the list are on the bottom, the ones on the top with 'draw over' the ones at the bottom without touching them (if they are on seperate layers). At this point, you can mke a layer more or less transparent, or change how the layers interact with the lower ones with the blending drop down box.

The important part to know now though is make your black and white layer on the top, and colour on the layer beneath it. You will have sharp black lines then, and you can play with the colours and blending as much as you want then!! Alot of it is playing till you find out.

PS- if you can't be bothered converting b+w layer to black with transparency, then if you make the line art layer a 'multiply' layer, it'll make the white dissapear!

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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 6:33 pm

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I think I understand that.  -_-; But you'll have to forgive me.  I'm a bit of a numbskull.  Now...what are layers, exactly?

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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 7:08 pm

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Ask my dad gatorchas to help you on this one!  He colors all of his pictures with that and he can help you!  ^///^

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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 7:15 pm

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Oooh, maybe I will. ^ ^  Sankyuu!

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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 8:22 pm

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On Apr 10, 2006 6:33 pm, Dollmaker said:
I think I understand that.  -_-; But you'll have to forgive me.  I'm a bit of a numbskull.  Now...what are layers, exactly?


Layers are like onions... XD

No, seriously, you know if you draw a squiggle in paint in red, then a squiggle over it in blue, then another in green, you'd have colours layered on top of eachother, right? When you think of layers, if you had each of the squiggles you just made on a differnt layer, you could hide the back two squiggles and see what the one by itsself looked like (or visa versa), make one of the squiggles slightly see through, blur out one of the squiggles, and ad to another- do what ever you liked to any of the squiggles. You can combine layers to do other effects,a nd then flatten it right at the end to make a single image. Layers are good, cause its multiple images one on top of each other. Heaps of pictures making one picture. The problem is that if you have too much memory used up with alot of layers (ie me- huge 600dpi images with 30 odd layers!!), it'll lag, or crash your computer, but I'm talking HUGE graphics with LOTS of layers. You'd start off with only a few. IT's all good. seriously.

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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 6:28 am

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Yipe!  That's a lot of layers!  [emoticon]   But anyway, thanks.  I think I get it now. ^ ^  The uh...layers bit, anyway.  Everything else I'm still a wet match in a dark cave. -.o;

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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 12:32 pm

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well as Arkillian said Layers are a must have. But aside from that good tools for coloring with the brush are screen and color dodge are great for high lights and color burn and multiply are are good for shading and things like that. Also filters are fun to play with cause it alters the look of the pic. Like say you have a nicly inked drawing and you go into the filters you can find a filter (I forget what it's called exactly) that'll change it to look like you just sketched it out. [emoticon] well I hope that helped you out.

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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 1:14 pm

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Really, the only way to get to know Photoshop and set your own style is to practice practice practice!! You'll find as you go along that you prefer certain tools over others. I, for example, am not very fond of the dodge and burn tools. ( [emoticon] / [emoticon] ) They don't add enough depth and variety to the picture. For shading, I usually just add a solid color in the areas to be shaded on seperate layer from the base color. Then I smudge it ( [emoticon] smudge tool is your friend [emoticon] ) to blend it in. Sometimes I add more than one color for shadows and highlights to make more colorful and realistic.

Inking is something that I'm still in the process of learning. When I ink, I use the 45 calligraphy brush and change the size to about 4-5. (To change the brush set, open the brush drop-down and click on the small arrow in the top corner. The different sets are at the bottom of that drop-down) Then in the brush setings, I change it to Pen Pressure at 45%. Then using the pen tool ( [emoticon] ) I click along my lineart to make a line. Then right-click and select 'Stroke line' and make sure the pressure box is checked. You have to do this on a seperate layer from the lineart, though!

Confused yet? [emoticon]   It sounds complicated, but after you figure out what all the tools are called and what they do, it's much easier to experiment. ^^ I'm really not all that good with Photoshop... ;>.>

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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 1:28 pm

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Personally- I onlly use burn and dodge to accent colour- they can sometimes come up with undesirable shades. I'd rather shade with black and turn the layer into a 'luminosity' layer myself

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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 5:58 pm

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Periodot Crow - Yes, I am confused.  [emoticon] Eek!  Oh well, I'm sure I'll get the hang of things.  I'll go play with it later and I'm sure I'll learn things as I go, too.  But thanks for all your help, everyone.  [emoticon] I really appreciate it! [emoticon]

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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 9:37 pm

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There is FAR TOO MUCH to answer here, Photoshop does so MUCH

Here go here, pull up a comfy chair and READ:
PHOTOSHOP TUTORIALS

HOW TO DO MANGA STYLE TUTORIALS

MORE ANIME STYLE PS TUTORIALS

BEGINNER TUTORIAL


Just GOOGLE Photoshop Tutorials, I got 89,000 results.... I'm sure there is preceisely what you are looking for there in specifics.


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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 10:45 pm

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On Apr 11, 2006 9:37 pm, fablespinner said:
There is FAR TOO MUCH to answer here, Photoshop does so MUCH

Here go here, pull up a comfy chair and READ:
PHOTOSHOP TUTORIALS

HOW TO DO MANGA STYLE TUTORIALS

MORE ANIME STYLE PS TUTORIALS

BEGINNER TUTORIAL


Just GOOGLE Photoshop Tutorials, I got 89,000 results.... I'm sure there is preceisely what you are looking for there in specifics.


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I agree ^^; Tinkering around and asking questions about specific things got me where I am now. Layers is a really good place to start though [emoticon]

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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 10:52 pm

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On Apr 11, 2006 10:45 pm, arkillian said:


I agree ^^; Tinkering around and asking questions about specific things got me where I am now. Layers is a really good place to start though [emoticon]


Yeah, I'm *STILL* learning all it can do by just playing with the tools. My first copy was 5.5 back in 2000 and I've been fiddling with it ever since without a manual and just experimenting,

I learn best tinkering myself.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2006 12:03 am

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On Apr 11, 2006 10:52 pm, fablespinner said:

Yeah, I'm *STILL* learning all it can do by just playing with the tools. My first copy was 5.5 back in 2000 and I've been fiddling with it ever since without a manual and just experimenting,

I learn best tinkering myself.

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LOL! My brother yells at me cause I never read 'readme first' files- they're a pain. I enjoy figuring it out myself. I think you need to go on courses to learn it properly. I'm learnign new ways of doing it everytime I touch the net. Using Flats? Just learnt them. Complicated as HECK but looks efficent ^^

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Posted: Apr 12, 2006 12:30 pm

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Oh, thanks a bunch guys. ^_^ And you know what?  It never even occured to me that there's a readme file. xD  Oh well, I never look at them anyway.  Why start now, right?

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Posted: Apr 12, 2006 2:11 pm

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well one time that might help you is to look at your layers as a blank page. you start with you line art save the first layer as line art.. next duplicat the line art and call it color.. do all of your basic colors here. atfer you get all the basic colors in lock it. next hit new page it is at the bottom of the layer area it looks like pages being turned. now on this page you will have to start your shading .this is where it start to get a little werid.. the way i like to shade is to go to the color layer and us the magic wand on the area i want to shade then go to the shade layer page and start to shade that area..after you are done with that layer lock it and go on to the next. high lights or darker shade what ever you want .. you can have as many layers you want...

you will find that when you do the shading that you can over do an area with color.. if you don't like it you erase the area you want to remove.. and the basic color will stay .. hope this helps....

 

 

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Posted: Apr 12, 2006 3:18 pm

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On Apr 12, 2006 12:30 pm, Dollmaker said:
Oh, thanks a bunch guys. ^_^ And you know what?  It never even occured to me that there's a readme file. xD  Oh well, I never look at them anyway.  Why start now, right?


Good motivation. Screw the haters that make us mould to how they think we should use their programme!! If I break it- there was a problem with the programme inthe first place!!!! MUWAHAHAH!!!! *does Don Kanonji gestures*

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Posted: Apr 12, 2006 3:28 pm

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On Apr 12, 2006 3:18 pm, arkillian said:
*does Don Kanonji gestures*


I swore to destroy the next person who did that with the giant robot that I parked in the bike racks downstairs, but it looks like I'm going to have to swallow my vow.

Posted: Apr 12, 2006 3:39 pm

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On Apr 12, 2006 3:28 pm, Qcvar said:
On Apr 12, 2006 3:18 pm, arkillian said:
*does Don Kanonji gestures*


I swore to destroy the next person who did that with the giant robot that I parked in the bike racks downstairs, but it looks like I'm going to have to swallow my vow.


> [emoticon] You should see me and all my friends do it then- We're all HUUUUGE Bleach fans ^^ I have a little koon figuring on my flash drive, and Bleach graphic novels in english up to 11 [emoticon] It's gooooooood.

Admittedtly, he's a moron ^^ A funny one though. My friend Ben does a mean impression of him doing his 'the spirits are allways with you' speech!! The WHOLE speech!! In Japanese!!

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